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KristopheUser is Offline
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05/09/2008 9:46 AM Alert 
G'day all,

We're beginning our pre-planning for the Danescombe Academy Rapier edition for 2009.  As some of you recall we last hosted this in 2007 and were priveleged to have 11 OWS as instructors.  We've taken alot of the feedback from that event and will be making the 2009 iteration even better BUT we have a question or two of the community:

1.  Would people prefer longer more indepth classes OR shorter and more diverse classes.  Namely, one of the concerns we had presented to us was that there was too much diversity and it didn't lend itself to cohesive skill development.  Conversely, the more advanced students liked being able to learn Spanish, Meyer etc. at the same event.  To be blunt: do we setup 4 hour blocks of a style or do we setup 2, 2 hour blocks of different classes.

2.  After 8 hours of classes the evening tournament seemed to be too much to handle for many.  Do people care if there's a tourney at training events?

My thanks for your assistance on this.
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05/11/2008 9:18 AM Alert 
Why not do both? 2 hours is a pretty good class length. For more indepth classes take 2 or 3 classes in sequence... throughout the day a particular class could get more advanced with a requirement that you took the earlier classes on that subject. Later in the day you could have some more beginner look at this style classes.

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05/16/2008 4:17 PM Alert 
Perhaps you could, instead of a traditional tournament, hold a series of judged bouts where participants are scored based on their adherence to the techniques they learned during the event?  A sort of "how well can you apply it under pressure" challenge?  Perhaps hits don't count unless they are adjudged to have been delivered in the style that the fencer is attempting.  That would be both competitive and educational.

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05/17/2008 7:14 AM Alert 
Posted By Lessingham on 05/11/2008 9:18 AM
Why not do both? 2 hours is a pretty good class length. For more indepth classes take 2 or 3 classes in sequence... throughout the day a particular class could get more advanced with a requirement that you took the earlier classes on that subject. Later in the day you could have some more beginner look at this style classes.

Thanks Lessingham - I think that's actually the kind of format we're leaning towards.  Running 2 hour blocks for the morning classes whilst allowing a longer 4 hour block for more indepth study in the afternoon.  Of course, this all really depends on what the instructors need for their courses.

I had hoped we'd get a bit more feedback from the general populace as to whether they'd like a greater diversity of instruction or a narrower more in depth focus.


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05/17/2008 7:25 AM Alert 
Posted By William Elder on 05/16/2008 4:17 PM
Perhaps you could, instead of a traditional tournament, hold a series of judged bouts where participants are scored based on their adherence to the techniques they learned during the event?  A sort of "how well can you apply it under pressure" challenge?  Perhaps hits don't count unless they are adjudged to have been delivered in the style that the fencer is attempting.  That would be both competitive and educational.

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Hi William - nice to hear from you.  This sounds alot like some of the WMA bouts I've seen on the 'net with folks grading the validity of the hit etc.  Forcing a focus on a particular skillset sounds interesting but I don't believe the SCA ruleset allows external judges to determine the hits.  That said, as a voluntary exercise I'm sure it could be worked into the event somehow.

I was more wondering whether people actually even cared for a tournament after a busy class-filled weekend.  I don't recall seeing anything of the sort at 4W this year (but I may have missed it).  I remember reading a thread on SFI stating that the WMA as a whole leans away from competitive tournaments - any experiences from previous 4W's that you could share?
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