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01/23/2006 3:57 PM Alert 
This just came across the West Kingdom fencers list. Based on discussions at the 12th night meeting I thought I would post it here and see what our next plans were for AnTir.

"Yesterday at the BoD meeting, which was held here in
Atlanta, the BoD approved the revised rapier rules including
Cut and Thrust. They were specific to mentioning that it was
included.

In speaking later with the Chairman of the BoD, Jason
mentioned that with just a few exceptions, those interested
in this revision were polite and well reasoned in their
correspondence with the Board. The Board members appreciated
this and were aware that it was a long wait for this
approval.

Also approved at the meeting was an appendix to the A&S
Historical Combat rules, to include definitions that are
useful in describing blades/weapons/ simulators. THe BoD
directed that this list be shared with the SEM. "



Lessingham

"The Will is the captain general of our army and our fortress."
1587 F. Ghisliero pg. 108
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01/24/2006 12:10 AM Alert 
Cool!

Where would one find these rules? I couldn't find them on the An Tir site, nor the SCA main site...

Warwick
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01/24/2006 9:14 AM Alert 
The new Society Rapier rules that were approved by the BoD have just been sent to the KW KRM list. Some review will be needed prior to the official adoption for use in An Tir.

Please be patient. You all have waited this long, another month or so will not kill you (looking at you Luciano).

;)

Ramon

Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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01/24/2006 1:18 PM Alert 
Posted By jgreywolf on 01-24-2006 9:14 AM

The new Society Rapier rules that were approved by the BoD have just been sent to the KW KRM list. Some review will be needed prior to the official adoption for use in An Tir.

Please be patient. You all have waited this long, another month or so will not kill you (looking at you Luciano).

;)

Ramon


The problem is not so much that it will kill me, it's that it won't kill you, or Balthazar, or Alvarro, or who ever is at Usalmas that I could fight with. This will be the last time I see any of you until May at the earliest. So if I don't get to fight C&T this weekend, I don't get to do it till May.

Luciano
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01/24/2006 10:29 PM Alert 
4W?

Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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02/15/2006 9:53 AM Alert 
I see now one has posted the link to the new rules yet so here it is:

http://www.sca.org/officers/marshal/combat/rapier/rapier_rules.pdf

"So let us go and get killed where we are told to go. Is life worth the trouble of so many questions?" -Athos
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02/15/2006 2:01 PM Alert 
Yes - we have the new rules for C&T approved in the Society - we are still working on identifying how we are going to update the An Tir Rule Set to take advantage of these changes...


Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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Old World Martial Arts - Teaching Historical Italian Swordplay in the Pacific Northwest
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02/16/2006 11:53 PM Alert 
Thank you for posting the link, Raoul. 
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03/15/2006 10:04 AM Alert 
Is there any update to the status of these in AnTir yet?

Thanks,
Utgar
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03/16/2006 11:24 AM Alert 
No - but new rules will be available for commentary by April.

Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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03/27/2006 4:26 PM Alert 
Looks like West Kingdom might beat AnTir to it.

A post from West Kingdom's Rapier Marshal sent out for March Crown
"I will also hold a meeting to discuss the start of the cut and
thrust rapier program - mark your calendars now for the upcoming
collegia and for the A&S event in the summer. If you are interested
in cut and thrust, you will need to go to these events."

Jeff Richardson
(L. GEoffrey Lessingham)

"The Will is the captain general of our army and our fortress."
1587 F. Ghisliero pg. 108
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03/29/2006 8:07 PM Alert 
Not the first ones - I forget who, but at least one other kingdom has this in place now I believe. Basically - they just pretended that the sidesword experiement never stopped.

An Tir however, is looking at actually incorporating the official SCA rules into the An Tir rules - instead of working with a totally separate program.


Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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Old World Martial Arts - Teaching Historical Italian Swordplay in the Pacific Northwest
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06/22/2006 9:19 PM Alert 
Yup, seen the draft changes for the West rapier rules.  They are incorporating them there as well.

Already started training the kingdoms fighters down there.

"The Will is the captain general of our army and our fortress."
1587 F. Ghisliero pg. 108
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06/24/2006 10:03 PM Alert 
FYI - those interested in more information on C&T in An Tir can contact Chrestien de Valois for the moment.

I had a little bit of a computer issue, so will not be able to post the draft of the new rules until early next week.

Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
Director
Old World Martial Arts - Teaching Historical Italian Swordplay in the Pacific Northwest
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