Utgar the Mad
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| 03/16/2006 4:19 PM |
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Ramon,
Far be it from me to disagree with you... I think the name is pretentious and I certainly didn't pick it... I inherited it along with the clipboard  titles are the last thing I need. And like I said in my original post its at this point purely administrative anyway and I make a point to tell everyone and anyone that comes to our practice that I'm NOT the teacher.
I've sent this (actually the email you also sent to the lists) on to the appropriate people in the Barony and I wish you good luck on eradicating all of the variations around the kingdom, sounds like a lot of work. I'm just glad it's your work and not mine hehehe.
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Dormouse
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| 03/16/2006 6:56 PM |
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Ramon, you seriously rock!!!
I wanted to do that when I was KRM, but didn't get to it.
Keep the reforms comin'!!!!
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Rebeca
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| 03/17/2006 9:00 AM |
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Just out of curiosity, how does this name-change apply if the person who holds this position isn't a senior marshal? Does it matter?
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welder
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| 03/21/2006 8:34 PM |
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I can't speak for anyone else, but the notion that 95% of the folks surveyed seem to think that I have enough experience to teach scares the ever-lovin' honey out of me. The more I learn, the more I just seem to illuminate the vast cavern of my own remaining ignorance.
That said, it sounds like its finally time to start that correspondence sword school that I've always dreamed of. Send your check or money order for $49.95 to:
William's School of Flashy Foining
c/o Fence by Mail Inc.
PO. Box 111
Scam, WA 98989
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jgreywolf
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| 03/25/2006 11:44 AM |
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Posted By welder on 03-21-2006 8:34 PM
I can't speak for anyone else, but the notion that 95% of the folks surveyed seem to think that I have enough experience to teach scares the ever-lovin' honey out of me. The more I learn, the more I just seem to illuminate the vast cavern of my own remaining ignorance.
Well, there are two aspects to that concept. So 41% said 3-5 years, and 41% said 5-10 years, which is closer to my thoughts. However, this does not address other requirements such as:
Is the person comfortable with teaching?
Have they actually improved over the length of time, or have they just been "sparring"?
Have they ever learned any instructional techniques, or anything - ie, there should be SOME sort of "apprenticeship" (for lack of a better term), where someone else is helping that person grow as an instructor...
And so on.
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jgreywolf
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| 03/25/2006 11:47 AM |
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Posted By welder on 03-21-2006 8:34 PM
That said, it sounds like its finally time to start that correspondence sword school that I've always dreamed of. Send your check or money order for $49.95 to:
William's School of Flashy Foining
c/o Fence by Mail Inc.
PO. Box 111
Scam, WA 98989
Pssst - by the way, just thought you should know that something is wrong with your address. The check that I sent you came back as Address Unknown.
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Utgar the Mad
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| 03/27/2006 12:23 PM |
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Whew.....
Thanks Ramon you just saved me a stamp |
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Tora
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| 08/16/2006 2:21 PM |
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In the end it's always going to come down to what you have available on hand. If you have a 20 year veteran fencer and teacher available to learn from then obviously you are going to seek them out first. If you only have a 1-3 year fencer then you will seek them out instead. I think what matters most is whether or not the desire to learn is there. As long as you have that any attempt you make to increase your knowledge will further your education--even if the person before you is lesser skilled.
Trust me on this.
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welder
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| 08/23/2006 4:55 PM |
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The thread is five months dead! Long live the thread!
Let us not forget that experience is qualitative as well as quantitative. The unfair reality is that a self-taught fencer with twenty years experience fencing only three other guys in the remote fastness of Wherethehellami, Idaho, may not be as good a source of knowledge as a devoted five-year student at NW Academy of Arms under Maestro Hayes. An under-trained instructor--no matter how many years of experience he may possess--is likely to leave gaping holes in his students' education, or even misinform them, despite his best intentions. Unfortunately, no amount of scholastic fervor on the student's part is likely to overcome this handicap.
Oh, man...I just half-convinced myself to move to NYC and study at the Martinez Academy...
-William
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Romeo13
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| 08/26/2006 2:33 PM |
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Posted By Tora on 08-16-2006 2:21 PM
In the end it's always going to come down to what you have available on hand. If you have a 20 year veteran fencer and teacher available to learn from then obviously you are going to seek them out first. If you only have a 1-3 year fencer then you will seek them out instead. I think what matters most is whether or not the desire to learn is there. As long as you have that any attempt you make to increase your knowledge will further your education--even if the person before you is lesser skilled.
Trust me on this.
Tora
Hate to disagree, but there are Fencers... and then there are Fencers...
You may have someone who fenced for 20 years, but they just showed up to practice a couple times a month, vice a 3 year person who has studied other Martial Arts and has actually STUDIED fencing for 3 years, practicing 3 or 4 times a week.
Slapping an amount of years onto a discussion like this is dangerous IMO. I'd rather study under someone who can show themselves effective than under someone who has been doing it for years, and has poor form...
I might add, I come from a military education background... and a good curriculum can really help an instructor who has limited experience. This, IMO, is one of the things which the SCA and WMA as a team could really help out with... a BASIC Primer, a basic curriculum with drills.... and pictures of technique... shoot, we could even go so far as create a website with Video to help explain things.....
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Cinara
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| 08/29/2006 12:57 AM |
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Posted By Albert_Faulke on 03-01-2006 7:21 PM
Rebeca,
One way to get better instruction is to invite an instructor to come up and teach for a weekend. Have your local group pitch in and pay for gas, or whatever, in order to bring the a qualified person to you. Doing so will allow you to tailor a weekend of instruction and get the most benefit.
I can understand your frustration with the lack of consistent instruction in your area. A way you might be able to overcome it, is to extend a specific invitation to the person in question. Try and make arrange and see if they can attend at least once a month. Then make sure that attendance is high that day.
Albert
Oh yes I agree this works well Our group in Cae Mor have done it for 4 years now with great results. BTW thanks again Albert, Muhgain and Rick. And believe me we are the end of the world!!! Yup, you can't even drive through us.
Another thing to try is get someone to video tape fight practices and send the footage to your instructor of choice (with prior permission of course) for feedback. While it's not the same as having them there with you it does allow for a more accurate form of comments and instruction.
I would LOVE an instructor with 10 years to be within an 8 hour drive!
Unfortunately that is not the case and those with more knowledge try to share what we can and steer new fighters to more experienced teachers even if its with the video camera.
Hugs
Cinara
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