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| 05/15/2007 12:32 PM |
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| Does anyone have the details of the rapier 'stuff' at Crown this coming weekend? |
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KitH
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| 05/15/2007 4:32 PM |
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From what I saw in the schedule:
Saturday - Lists open at 9:00AM, Tournament at 10:00 and an OWS Meeting at 1:30PM.
Sunday - Rapier Prize Tournament at 9:00 AM
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SimonFencer
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| 05/15/2007 7:40 PM |
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Thanks Kit. Actually I meant a bit more specifically...as in what format for the tournaments.
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Raoul
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| 05/16/2007 10:10 AM |
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From what I understand, the Saturday morning tourney is the Cadets Tourney.
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SimonFencer
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| 05/16/2007 11:56 AM |
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Posted By Raoul on 05-16-2007 10:10 AM
From what I understand, the Saturday morning tourney is the Cadets Tourney.
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| 05/16/2007 4:21 PM |
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Does that mean you are going to bail on participating in the cadets tourney again? 
There is a theory of a Saturday afternoon tourney for those that are interested as well. Have not heard back recently from Diego on this though. The Sunday morning tourney is a prize tourney. |
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SimonFencer
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| 05/16/2007 6:53 PM |
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| yep, I'll be bailing on it unless there is a huge amount of space. It makes no sense to spend my time working on controling distance to try fighting in an area with 4x to many people in it.
I'm up for pickups though either before or after. |
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MollyModine
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| 05/17/2007 9:41 AM |
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| see you all there |
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Alvarro
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| 05/17/2007 5:15 PM |
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Posted By SimonFencer on 05-16-2007 6:53 PM
yep, I'll be bailing on it unless there is a huge amount of space. It makes no sense to spend my time working on controling distance to try fighting in an area with 4x to many people in it.
I'm up for pickups though either before or after.
I've always thought it doesn't make sense to work on *anything* at an event...that's what practice is for.
Maybe you should try studying period fencing, it teaches you to control an opponent at close measure. 
I'm bailing on the whole event due to money and no passport...may be a looooooong time before I make more american events. Sigh.
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godvonrav
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| 05/17/2007 9:35 PM |
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| You won't need a passport till at least next year (unless you are flying across the border).
Everybody have fun, and Simon...if you aren't fighting...at least take some damn pictures for those of us who won't be there. |
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SimonFencer
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| 05/18/2007 7:28 AM |
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| I'll have to make sure that Alessandra packed her camera...mine went on vacation with Sean to London. |
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Talentus
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| 05/21/2007 8:14 PM |
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Here are the pictures that i took at May Crown. A few fencers snuck in there, but i forgot admidst the fighting. I will try and do better at June Faire.
http://www.pbase.com/lrdtalon/may_crown_2007
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MollyModine
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| 05/22/2007 7:48 AM |
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| Hey for once my butt wasn't in the photos. LOL |
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Molly Modine (GdS, Havoc)
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Sebastien
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| 05/22/2007 11:52 AM |
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| OMG what a hairdo I had in that one... |
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SimonFencer
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| 05/22/2007 1:24 PM |
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Posted By Alvarro on 05-17-2007 5:15 PM
Posted By SimonFencer on 05-16-2007 6:53 PM
yep, I'll be bailing on it unless there is a huge amount of space. It makes no sense to spend my time working on controling distance to try fighting in an area with 4x to many people in it. I'm up for pickups though either before or after. I've always thought it doesn't make sense to work on *anything* at an event...that's what practice is for. Maybe you should try studying period fencing, it teaches you to control an opponent at close measure.  I'm bailing on the whole event due to money and no passport...may be a looooooong time before I make more american events. Sigh.
You are absolutely right about the not working on stuff at events, but no point in reverting back to just brawling now is there? And I agree completely about the period fencing teaches you to control an opponent at close measure, however I don't remember seeing anything (admittedly I don't have a huge amount of experience with period texts/translations) that advocates starting in close measure. I'm the first to admit that I am nowhere near fast enough to play that kind of game. And frankly that is why I fence very little at events.
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juan_guthrie
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| 05/22/2007 3:41 PM |
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| Here are the photos I took last weekend:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68308572@N00/sets/72157600243174524/ |
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juan_guthrie
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| 05/22/2007 3:48 PM |
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| Hey Talon,
Can I nick a photo or two from you for the Cadet/OWS photo page?
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Talentus
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| 05/24/2007 8:29 PM |
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| sure, if you want full res images let me know. |
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Alvarro
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| 05/25/2007 1:01 AM |
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Posted By SimonFencer on 05-22-2007 1:24 PM You are absolutely right about the not working on stuff at events, but no point in reverting back to just brawling now is there? And I agree completely about the period fencing teaches you to control an opponent at close measure, however I don't remember seeing anything (admittedly I don't have a huge amount of experience with period texts/translations) that advocates starting in close measure. I'm the first to admit that I am nowhere near fast enough to play that kind of game. And frankly that is why I fence very little at events.
Yer right man...you need waaaaay more practice. And reading.
Never, never read a period manual that says "A fight always starts from this distance or more..." Almost all the ones I have read deal with different responses to be used at each range.
Not to mention that "close range" is usually defined as somewhere around the distance where you can hit your opponent with only an extension of the arm. I have *never* in *any* tournament, in *any* format seen people start that close.
No, wait, I lie. Singlestick! And the friday night mensuren that don't happen.
And at least two period masters clearly state that if you want to get better, you have to fence every one you can, every chance you can.
Or more to the point...
I haven't fought you in a long time. I'd love to. Pick-ups are great, but I would really enjoy testing myself against you in a tournament. It's been years.
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SimonFencer
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| 05/25/2007 7:43 AM |
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Randy,
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Or maybe I will. You are using statements about measure that are based on period ideas. I am using them more from the point of view about how measure works for me. Close range as I see it is the distance to my opponent just inside the distance where I still feel I can control what is going on. So against someone like Thoré or Godfrey that is about a kilometer...against other people that distance is much closer to the extend your arm and hit them distance...
I'd like to fight you in a tournament again, I alwasy enjoy the fights we have, but I don't really care for tournaments in general. I'd much rather fight a bunch of pick ups and discuss techniques used, why they worked or didn't...that sort of thing over stand around waiting for my turn in a double elim...And either way I am going to give you the same quality fight, for better or worse.  I'll probably be at September Crown, hopefully you are down for that. Unless for some reason you go to Sport of Kings, other than that I won't be at any more events this year.
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