KitH
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| 02/25/2006 9:08 AM |
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Just so get something going in this forum. Who else is involved in the Western Martial Arts (WMA) community and where do you practice?
I practice at Old World Martial Arts in Kent, WA.
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Kit Heinrichs
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Dormouse
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| 02/25/2006 7:15 PM |
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Howdy Kit!
As you know, I am as well.
I'm the Study Group Leader for the Tattershall School of Defense for the Vancouver, WA/Portland, OR group.
We practice at Irving Park in Portland.
We're gonna have a good showing at 4-W next weekend with four of us being in attendance.
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Mughain
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| 02/26/2006 12:54 PM |
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Hi Kit!
I am involved in WMA as well. You might recognize me(LOL), since I'm one of the regulars at Old World Martial Arts in Kent, WA (either that, or from carpooling, rent-payin' etc.)
Looking forward to 4W!
Cheryl
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HL Mughain inghean Donnghaille
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jgreywolf
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| 02/26/2006 3:50 PM |
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Oooh! Me Too! Me Too! I like play with swords. 
You may have seen me from such memorable events as 4W 2005, and OWMA - lots of times.
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Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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Old World Martial Arts - Teaching Historical Italian Swordplay in the Pacific Northwest |
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don_gregorio
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| 03/11/2006 6:40 PM |
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I've been known to swing a sword around every now and then.
I do Tattershall with the Portland/Vancouver group
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Jon Barber
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| 03/13/2006 11:33 PM |
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I dabble a little bit - nothing much.
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jgreywolf
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| 03/14/2006 2:25 PM |
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| I am still waiting for someone to post in this thread that is NOT a part of Tattershall |
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Justin Greywolf (SCA: Ramon Diaz de la Vega)
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SimonFencer
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| 03/14/2006 2:48 PM |
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Posted By jgreywolf on 03-14-2006 2:25 PM I am still waiting for someone to post in this thread that is NOT a part of Tattershall
Sorry, can't help you there Justin. I'm Tattershall too.
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Paul Franklin
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Lessingham
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| 03/15/2006 1:14 PM |
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OK Justin...... I am not and never have been Tattershalll..... There you go.
I run Academia Duellatoria in Medford Oregon.... I'm the guy that first started the small WMA seminar thing out here on the west coast. Beginning about 2000 with the Destreza seminar taught by the Maestri Martinez, Jared Kirby and John Michael Greer.
As for where I play and practice.... Seminars on the West Coast and at my school |
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Alvarro
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| 03/17/2006 11:37 AM |
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Well, I guess you could say I do. I'm teaching WMA classes about 20 hours a week at this point, and putting in about another 30 in scheduled research projects and admin.
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welder
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| 03/21/2006 9:08 PM |
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I'm at least as interested in the reverse question. Am I the only one here who is not actively involved in the SCA?
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welder
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| 03/21/2006 11:19 PM |
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By the way, Justin, I think it is really cool how you let folks include javascript in their posts.
(If you delete this post, things should return to normal.) |
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Utgar the Mad
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| 03/22/2006 12:12 PM |
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| BWAHAHA Ramon.... you been hacked hehehe nice one welder |
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welder
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| 03/22/2006 5:05 PM |
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| Nah. Not so much a hack as an experimental post that I got carried away with. I'm kinda feeling bad about it now, though it's pretty innocuous. I've disabled it.
Them what wants to see what all the fuss is about can click here. And here to make it stop.
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Dormouse
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| 03/22/2006 8:00 PM |
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Posted By welder on 03-21-2006 9:08 PM
I'm at least as interested in the reverse question. Am I the only one here who is not actively involved in the SCA?
So far it looks like it William. (Actually not exactly true I'm only barely active...)
But don't worry you're not missing a thing...
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Utgar the Mad
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| 03/23/2006 12:17 PM |
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I find myself in the position to humbly disagree with Dormouse on one point.... Ill get to it but I need to qualify my perspective first.
I am one of the few that is not WMA, at least not in a school. I do this purely in the SCA, I never was a strip fencer or foil fighter and I didn’t do this in college. I also never practiced any other form of Marshal Art (other than the how do you kill people type in the Marine Corps).
I don’t pursue a particular period style, a purest may say that this means I don’t practice "Western Marshal Arts" I would disagree since its about the art of wielding a sword and not the art of studying a specific master otherwise it would be called "Cappo Ferro Martial Arts" or something equally specific. Similar to the millions of types of eastern martial arts.... they do call them by the name of the school... IE Tae kwon Do, Karate, Kung Fu, they are all Eastern Marshal Arts however.
I would go so far as to say that there are only so many ways one can wield a sword based on physics and body mechanics, this is why with very few variations of stance most of the period styles look very similar with the exception of Destressa. However they all require the knowledge and practice of geometry and timing so that you can put your point in the other guy while making sure that the other guy has no ability to do the same to you.
With that said I would humbly disagree with Dormouse's opinion that "Your not missing much" and say that:
1: You should see that for yourself
2: There are a lot of people in the SCA and not the WMA that are doing everything they can to perfect this art, there are also a lot that are jokers . But it would be a shame to not experience all of them because you never checked them out.
Just my opinion
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welder
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| 03/23/2006 1:48 PM |
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Please, friends, for the love of all that is holy, let us not start the never-ending WMA vs. SCA debate here. It gets wearisome so quickly. There are a couple lively variants of that debate going on armourarchive right now for those who want to go down that road.
Maybe we can instead discuss how we can get the two working together more?
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Utgar the Mad
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| 03/23/2006 3:12 PM |
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ahhh No debate from me, I beleive that they are both going the same route and if I could afford to pay the freight I would be doing both. SCA is to WMA as grass seed is to grass in my opinion and as long as people want to learn there will be room for both.
I was merely saying that you should check it out for yourself.
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SimonFencer
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| 03/23/2006 3:21 PM |
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One suggestion on getting the two working better together would be to better present the concept of learning period techniques.
One of the purposes of the SCA is to recreate the middle ages (and by extension the years before and after...vaguely 600-1650 depending on who you ask)...learning some period techniques helps do exactly that.
Craig can back me up on this point, is today we have simulators designed to work with period styles. 10 years ago they were rare, 15 non-existent. What was available was Olympic fencing equipment, so the styles that developed where essentially Olympic fencing in period garb.
If we can present the topic as beneficial and enjoyable and not as your way is wrong this way is right I would think we would see less resistance. (maybe...hopefully). We had a similar conversation at Madrone practice last night, and I brought up the example some other period A&S study topic. Let’s call it Basket Weaving (we did...). If we were doing period basket weaving, the competition (according to one of us that has some experience with SCA A&S comps) wouldn't necessarily be any less, but people are more willing to try how it was done then.
From the few WMA classes I have taken I have found that for every technique "How" there is also a "Why" that goes with it.
Ok…from rereading this I can see I am starting to ramble (I am at work, and it seems to be an occupational hazard), but I will post it anyway, as even though I have finished all my thoughts at least I have put a few ideas out there for us to discuss.
William is correct, let’s try to keep this as constructive as possible.
Paul
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Paul Franklin
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Alvarro
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| 03/23/2006 3:29 PM |
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| How about i just start a different thread, so this one can stay as a "who" thread? |
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